Nightfall Equivelant of Ascending? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Ritualistic Spankin · Nov 13, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

When I was playing through with my Paragon, just by following the primary quests as soon as I got to Chantry of Secrets I was able to get into FoW. So that being said it was either before that, or it was the quest/mission that drops you off in the Chantry for the first time.

Also just to test if it was a fluke, I went to LA with him and ran him to ToA, where I was still able to enter FoW, and UW.

Gonzo · Nov 13, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Storywise there is no real "ascention", wouldnt make sense if it was either. The people of Elona came to the Crystal Desert to try and get ascended, why would they do that if you could ascend in Elona?

Never tried entering FoW, because I figured I needed to go to the desert and get ascended there, like a good little Elonean.

stueyman2099 · Nov 13, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Your equivilent to ascention in the Nightfall Campaign is the Lightbringer title. This title is earned by killing certain types of monsters after getting a bounty from the people you see tending resurrection shrines (the same way you get sunspear promotion points).This title provides you with +5% damage to demons and -1 damage taken per rank you have.

If you're looking for an equivilent thing that lets you into FoW, there really isn't anything to my knowledge, but storyline wise, there ya go.

nbajammer · Nov 13, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Actually the real Ascension is when you complete "Building the Base" quest line. Before then you cant change secondaries, immediately after you can - and you MUST be "ascended" to change secondaries. So no, it isnt the Lightbringer thing, or getting a wurm, or anything like that. I know this is correct because it's how I did it with my Dervish.

Smile Like Umean It · Nov 13, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

I figured it would be something like that.

Horseman Of War · Nov 13, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Is it when we take a bath in lyssa's fountain? I havent tried to get into fow with my paragon again since i remembered about the ascension deal (lol Ive done this mistake with at least half my toons)

EDIT

Building the Base is NOT ascension. You can change your secondary, but you are not ascended for fow/uw.

On a side note - Would this have anything to do with the tyria-elona portal because I just found it and it said I cant use it yet.... something about 'I dont know about the dangers of tyria' like- lol dude Im riding around a sulfer desert infected by Hell and you think I cant handle some level 17 necro-bugs???

Smile Like Umean It · Nov 13, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Hey, those scarabs can be tough.... sometimes....maybe *sigh* fine, they aren't.

Neo Nugget · Nov 14, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

You get the 15 att points just for getting one of the sunspear ranks (forget which one)

First spear i believe.I think theres another set you can get from obtaining rank 5 i think.

MegaMouse · Nov 14, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

This is for Horseman of War. I also found that little portal. I thionk that you must own Profecies to be able to use it, but I own all 3 chapters so I couldn't realy tell you whether this is true or not. If you own the first chapter you should be able to use it to get to the crystal desert.

Mega Mouse

moonstar · Nov 16, 2006, 12:06 PM // 12:06

Once you obtain the rank of Sunspear General, which is required to continue onward in Elona, you become ascended. It is only after obtaining this rank that the 15k Sunspear armor and the Profession Changer come available.

Saraphim · Nov 23, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Hmm... I dug this up because it intrigued me so I've tried to test it.

My Paragon somehow ascended without me noticing, and can change her secondary profession at the command post. She hasn't gone past Moddok Crevice yet. So has only 6 completed missions so far.

Yonks ago I created a ranger in Cantha, but never bothered to get her past Kaineng as Factions just didn't hold any replay value for me... so here's what I've found based on bringing her, unascended, to Elona.

Building the Base - No. It's not that. She's done all of it and while the profession changer has appeared in the Command Post she still says "You must be ascended or Closer to the Stars"

Attaining Sunspear General: Not that either. She's gone past that and still can't change her SP

And a Hero Shall Lead Them (Quest): Again no. I checked directly after finishing the quest. No Joy.

Venta Cemetery mission... Well based on all the above I expected to be able to change SP after the mission and the follow-up "The Council Is Called". But no, she's in the Command Post right now being given the brush off yet again.

Curiously, the Elite Sunspear 15K armourer is here and willing to take my hard earned gold.

If I have to take her back to Cantha to ascend I think she's gonna be my new mule...

Re: The Lightbringer title, I seriously doubt it's that. As my paragon has only 6 Lightbringer points so far, yet she is ascended.

Nov 13, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57	#26
Horseman Of War Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: The Cult of Doom Profession: P/	Is it when we take a bath in lyssa's fountain? I havent tried to get into fow with my paragon again since i remembered about the ascension deal (lol Ive done this mistake with at least half my toons) EDIT Building the Base is NOT ascension. You can change your secondary, but you are not ascended for fow/uw. On a side note - Would this have anything to do with the tyria-elona portal because I just found it and it said I cant use it yet.... something about 'I dont know about the dangers of tyria' like- lol dude Im riding around a sulfer desert infected by Hell and you think I cant handle some level 17 necro-bugs??? Last edited by Horseman Of War; Nov 13, 2006 at 09:01 PM // 21:01..

Nov 13, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56	#21
Ritualistic Spankin Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006	When I was playing through with my Paragon, just by following the primary quests as soon as I got to Chantry of Secrets I was able to get into FoW. So that being said it was either before that, or it was the quest/mission that drops you off in the Chantry for the first time. Also just to test if it was a fluke, I went to LA with him and ran him to ToA, where I was still able to enter FoW, and UW.

Nov 13, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34	#22
Gonzo Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Netherlands Guild: Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB] Profession: W/	Storywise there is no real "ascention", wouldnt make sense if it was either. The people of Elona came to the Crystal Desert to try and get ascended, why would they do that if you could ascend in Elona? Never tried entering FoW, because I figured I needed to go to the desert and get ascended there, like a good little Elonean.

Nov 13, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17	#23
stueyman2099 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Clan W A S D [WASD] Profession: W/E	Your equivilent to ascention in the Nightfall Campaign is the Lightbringer title. This title is earned by killing certain types of monsters after getting a bounty from the people you see tending resurrection shrines (the same way you get sunspear promotion points).This title provides you with +5% damage to demons and -1 damage taken per rank you have. If you're looking for an equivilent thing that lets you into FoW, there really isn't anything to my knowledge, but storyline wise, there ya go.

Nov 13, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52	#24
nbajammer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Blade And Rose [BaR] Profession: Mo/	Actually the real Ascension is when you complete "Building the Base" quest line. Before then you cant change secondaries, immediately after you can - and you MUST be "ascended" to change secondaries. So no, it isnt the Lightbringer thing, or getting a wurm, or anything like that. I know this is correct because it's how I did it with my Dervish.

Nov 13, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#25
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	I figured it would be something like that.

Nov 13, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01	#27
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	Hey, those scarabs can be tough.... sometimes....maybe sigh fine, they aren't.

Nov 14, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41	#29
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	This is for Horseman of War. I also found that little portal. I thionk that you must own Profecies to be able to use it, but I own all 3 chapters so I couldn't realy tell you whether this is true or not. If you own the first chapter you should be able to use it to get to the crystal desert. Mega Mouse

Nov 16, 2006, 12:06 PM // 12:06	#30
moonstar Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2006	Once you obtain the rank of Sunspear General, which is required to continue onward in Elona, you become ascended. It is only after obtaining this rank that the 15k Sunspear armor and the Profession Changer come available.

Nov 23, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32	#31
Saraphim Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Hand of Omega [WHO] Profession: E/	Hmm... I dug this up because it intrigued me so I've tried to test it. My Paragon somehow ascended without me noticing, and can change her secondary profession at the command post. She hasn't gone past Moddok Crevice yet. So has only 6 completed missions so far. Yonks ago I created a ranger in Cantha, but never bothered to get her past Kaineng as Factions just didn't hold any replay value for me... so here's what I've found based on bringing her, unascended, to Elona. Building the Base - No. It's not that. She's done all of it and while the profession changer has appeared in the Command Post she still says "You must be ascended or Closer to the Stars" Attaining Sunspear General: Not that either. She's gone past that and still can't change her SP And a Hero Shall Lead Them (Quest): Again no. I checked directly after finishing the quest. No Joy. Venta Cemetery mission... Well based on all the above I expected to be able to change SP after the mission and the follow-up "The Council Is Called". But no, she's in the Command Post right now being given the brush off yet again. Curiously, the Elite Sunspear 15K armourer is here and willing to take my hard earned gold. If I have to take her back to Cantha to ascend I think she's gonna be my new mule... Re: The Lightbringer title, I seriously doubt it's that. As my paragon has only 6 Lightbringer points so far, yet she is ascended.